Having a Masters degree in physics he was influenced by his father’s books on the Rosicrucians that then took him into yoga and also to becoming a musician
and experimenting with sound and understanding what constitutes sound, that some of the great masters brought through, as with Mozart.
When invited to work with Geoffrey Hodgson, originally from England, one of the most respected clairvoyants of the 20th century, Murray’s insight and understanding
of the energies and frequencies that pervade and saturate the universe - took him deeply into the unseen world of Geoffrey Hodson. That - beyond the
‘filmiest of screens’* are other agencies of a higher order - devic beings - some call them landscape angels - that have in essence been over lighting
evolution since life emerged onto our planet.
Healthy Skepticism and not Dogmatic Scepticism
Murray also talks about skepticism and what is healthy skepticism and not dogmatic scepticism - which like religions - especially Christianity it was very
dogmatic until recently - that there is now a merger of science and religion. But that science too has now become so skeptical that it too follows
the traits of becoming exceptionally dogmatic. Meaning, if you cannot see it and measure it, is not definitely not there.
Albert Einstein, who Murray mentions had mystical understandings was classified as a pantheist by the British Pantheist Society according to Tim’s communications
with them back in 1996. That when NZ’s Lord Rutherford split the atom, Einstein said - that “Rutherford was the first person to tunnel into God.”
Also mentioned in this interview was Nikola Tesla’s statement “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one
decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”
Well, as we know - our universities are overburdened with subject matter as it is, thus science has made no real effort as things that are invisible, are
also very difficult to commercialise.
Reductionist and Mechanistic Science
Murray talks about science today following a reductionist mechanical model - that by breaking down everything to its constituent parts to finally after
cells we have atoms and subatomic particles. They say in the dissecting of an animal - it just works as a machine - and thus every living creature
is seen as a machine. That this is actually valid - our bodies do act as machines - however the human body has been said for thousands of years, as
always having a soul - or a spiritual essence.
The ancient Greeks from whom much of our scientific and biological language derive from, talk of ‘psyche’ as in psychology and psychiatrist - it means
‘soul’ - yet 90% of doctors may not believe in a soul, because they do not cover this or mention it, in their many years of medical school from 7 years
to 13 years.
World Soul is Mentioned
The world soul (Greek: ψυχὴ κόσμου psuchè kósmou,Latin: anima mundi) is, according to several systems of thought, an intrinsic connection between all living things on the planet,
which relates to the world in much the same way as the soul is connected
to the human body. Plato adhered to this idea, so did Pythagoras.
However, back in 1957 in the then Soviet Union, Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain was published in America by Lynn Schroeder and Sheila Ostrander
- this book really opened the eyes of the West - that not only were the Soviets studying psychokinesis they were researching telepathy and many
other taboo subjects too.
However, unknown to most, the American’s were also working on some of these hidden ‘occult’ subjects as well. Harold Puthoff and Russell Targ of the
Stanford Research Institute in California - were looking at ‘Remote Viewing’ and other scientific ways to access the hidden.
Murray mentions Charles Leadbeater who was a clairvoyant who was able to, in a deep meditative state - zero down and look into the heart of the atom.
ThIs is a phenomenon that is outside of scientific man’s imagination. This is where Leadbeater was able to painstakingly count the number of protons
in the nucleus of different atoms.
This momentous work on describing the structure of atoms - working through the periodic table to describe how many protons certain atoms had. This
is very important - because he discovered the exact number of isotopes that were not know at the time, but subsequently we have now identified
isotopes that now fill exactly those slots.
https://www.ts-adyar.org/content/charles-webster-leadbeater-1854-1934 Though this information too has not come out to the general public, due to MSM not wanting to delve into such data.
Murray’s ranging interview then covered his time with Geoffrey Hodson
Here he talked about his experiments he did with sound and colour as like the book - 'Music Forms’ - tells of how clairvoyants see the profusion of
colour when certain music is played, in this instance the ‘hallelujah chorus’ (listen)
Devas or Landscape Angels
The interview went on to cover the great energies of ‘devas' that over lighted mountain tops (as well as in certain cases natural power points on the
planetary energy grid. The books, ‘Kingdom of the Gods’ and ‘Clairvoyant Investigations’ - the latter writing, with drawings of the great beings
or landscape angels that are present in NZ, over Rangitoto Island, and Ngāuruhoe, immediately behind Tongariro. etc (Listen)
It was also Geoffrey Hodson who introduced vegetarianism to NZ in 1943, because as a seer, he witnessed the dark clouds or thought forms that hung
over abattoir’s and especially one giant one he saw over the huge abattoir in Chicago.
This was a very enjoyable interview with Murray. It is a realm that I have a keen interest in too. There is also a follow up - coming ...