We found ourselves impassioned about systems of governance and the corporate take over model, and how it impedes the development of community and its needs for energy, health and food independence.
Food, money, wellbeing, and indigenous values are also reflected in this interview as part of how we can live on Gaia - in greater harmony.
What is poignantly addressed by these two Americans is how and why New Zealand should resist corporate power and control and avoid emulating the collapsing systems of the United States.
Dr. Lipton describes this dominance as a serious ailment that is leading us into systemic patterns of total breakdown. Both Norma and Bruce speak to what comprises a healthy, cohesive and sane society as grassroots community endeavors - beating as one heart. Being thoughtful witnesses to what is happening in America they make a compelling argument for New Zealand's capacity to act in greater community fashion.
This powerful insightful interview shows how friends and family too can spontaneously evolve by having these types of conversation to mobilize their commitment to creating a world that we all want to live in and is sustainable.
TONY BENN British Labour Cabinet Minister, a vegetarian since the 1970s.
A GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT A HEALTHY, INTELLIGENT POPULATION BECAUSE THEY ARE FAR TOO DIFFICULT TO MANAGE.